Thursday, August 19, 2010

Classic music theory and jazz music theory?

i want to learn music theory so i can write my own music on the piano.....is music theory for jazz and music theory for other music different? and if it is, then what is different about it? and also, say i was to learn jazz theory, does that mean i would have trouble making non-jazz music?

Classic music theory and jazz music theory?
The theory is the same for all music. Sometimes the terminology is different.





Generally speaking, jazz musicians often have to interpret the harmonic structure of a piece. They are given sequences of chords which they must decipher according to a naming system, but the particular inversions and voice leading is often left to the player. Their understanding of theory and harmony, along with their dexterity on their instrument, must be of a high enough level to do this on the fly.





In orchestral music, exact notes are written to achieve what the composer is looking for. Interpretation is on a much more subtle level.





Pop, rock and commercial music use the same basic rules, but must stay within stylistic restraints. That's all.





Any knowledge you can acquire will be helpful.





peace





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Reply:They are pretty much the same...with jazz you will spend time on timings, phrasing and rhythms but you will also do that with Classical, only in a different sense of application. For example, listen to Ella Fitzgerald scatting out an up-tempo song and then listen to Bach's counterpointing. Both quite sophisticated in timing and phrasing and yet quite different in application.
Reply:The fundamentals of jazz and classical music are the same. The theory you will need to learn will start out the same (for example, learning what major and minor chords are, and learning how chord progressions work), and then once you master the basics, you will then learn specific examples that relate them to either jazz or classical music.





Anything you can learn for one field can be applied to another- the only new thing you will need to learn is the stylistic rules that are applied which make a piece sound jazz vs. classical.





As an example: you will learn what a dominant seventh chord is (applies to both jazz and classical), and then learn how to resolve it to a tonic chord (classical) or learn to not-resolve it (and play a bebop scale over it) to make it sound jazzy.
Reply:I tend to agree and disagree with the other answers. Theory does overlap in JAzz and Classical genres. For someone learning theory for the first time, I would suggest a basic theory course or book. Nothing that is specifically geared for jazz until you get the bulk of the fundamentals down. The terms are a little different sure, but the chord structures will mess with your head in jazz if you don't have the basic understanding.


Just my opinion, doesn't mean I'm right, just a suggestion.
Reply:In my opinion everybody should learn music theory at some stage in their life. theory is basically the same for all genres but is more prominent in jazz and classical music. Listen to Bach. His music is so planned, thought out and deeply spiritual, It will blow your mind. but some of the greatest pop musicians of all time did not know any theory, eg. Hendrix. Theory is the understanding of the language of the soul (music). it is an understanding of humanity.


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