Sunday, August 22, 2010

Why is rap considered music?

Rock is considered music because IT IS MUSIC-IT'S THE MUSIC OF THE LAST CENTURY!!!!!!There was good soul music back in the day, country music is music-because it was the forefather of american music-were do u think rock comes from?From country, blugrass, and southern kinds of music!!!!!!!Rap was an experiment by gangsters in the 80's, and when the stupid white owned record labels saw that it was popular as a form of, so called music, to the urban communities-they signed who ever they could! One girl answered me last time saying thatwith out rap how could we rhyme!Your dumb, i understand that humans have always been poets, but rap is not poetry-it is lyrical manslaughter!


It sounds so identical , every song, all the time-tupac could of rapped about his kids?how he loved them, no he just talked over and over about the streets, and gang life!!!!the same for all the rest!they only make songs that will sell, cause they know what will sell-and thats smart, but making pure music no, no good!

Why is rap considered music?
all of rap isn't violent or stupid. There are other rappers that are great Will Smith and many others. Rock also has very violent lyrics. If you listen to more Rap then you will see that it's not so bad.
Reply:BECAUSE IT IS!!!!!!! JUST BECAUSE U DONT LIKE AND DONT UNDERSTAND IT DONT MEAN NOBODY ELSE DO!!!!! Y IS ROCK CONSIDERED MUSIC!?!?!?! HAVE U EVA TRIED TO SIT DOWN AND LISTEN TO THE MUSIC!!?? DATS WHATS WRONG WIT PEOPLE LIKE U...YALL B QUICK TO JUDGE SOMETHIN BUT DONT EVEN KNO WHAT U TALKING BOUT.....I CAN TELL U REAL IGNORANT AND SMALL MINDED BECAUSE OF THAT QUESTION.......N GO RITE AHEAD AND REPORT A VIOLATION..BECAUSE I TRULY DONT GIVE A ****..BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE U MAKE ME SICK TO MY STOMACH AND ITS SAD WE GOT PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD LIKE U..BUT WE DO......DO ME A FAVOR AND GROW UP....EARLY!!!!!!!!!!.....U BETTA BE LUCKY I CANT SAY WHAT I WANT TO SAY ON THIS SITE..BUT U KNO WAT IM GONNA B THA BIGGER PERSON AND NOT STOOP TO UR LIL LEVEL CUZ I C WHOS THE IGNORANT AND DUMB ONE....NEXT TIME U NEED TO THINK BEFORE U SPEAK....CUZ LIKE THE GOOD SAYING GOES: LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS.....
Reply:I am a hip/hop fan, while i agree some of the lyrics by some of the artist are too much. There are many that I do like. Actually Tupac is my all time favorite of EVERYTHING. If you don't listen to hip/hop and have only heard a few of his songs then yes you may only see one side. He had many MANY songs that were about love, and not about violence, drugs, and sex. If you sit back and listen to some of his music (especially some of the older stuff) you would realize that his music is not all about killing. There are some rappers who should be more responsible in what they say, but it is a free country and if you don't like it, don't listen to it. I HATE rock and country, but just because i can't stand it doesn't mean that it is not music. And many rock and country singers are collaborating with rappers, and are actually taking stuff from the hip-hop culture so that they can sell records. Whether you like it or not ALL genres take from hip/hop especially now.
Reply:because it has a beat. Everything with a Beat today is considered as Music. Hell, Even Parris Hilton is Singing. (ok, off-topic) but Rap is like the Only Way to sing, without having to use your vocals. That pretty much sucks because All they do is sing stupid stuff.... but kids these days like it... and i guess no one can stop them from producing stupid stuff... Sounds good sometimes though...
Reply:good question!?
Reply:Same goes for why is some art considered art- even if you don't like it,it is a musical expression and falls under the generalized term. That doesn't mean you have to like it- or in arts case- hang it on your wall. I hate Picasso but do see his place in history and why he is famous. But he was a jerk, a womanizer and even burned his lovers with cigs-should he have gotten fame? Many rap artists are very talented- many are not at all! I am not a rap enthusiast but like alternative and classic rock- but then I also like Celtic instrumental and country on occasion- to each his own. I just wish the person in the car next to me would be respectful enough to turn down the bass!
Reply:well if we would have known this would have happened we should have picked our own cotton
Reply:Rap is considered music because if we dared not to consider it so the fan base would claim discrimination and there would be a big negative hoopla that nobody needs so the musical establishment just threw them a cookie to keep them quiet.
Reply:open your mind and the rest will follow....
Reply:Marilyn Manson did a song with rapper DMX.





Phil Collins did a song with rap group Bone Thugs In Harmony.





Aerosmith and RunDMC.





Kenny Rogers did a song with Wyclef Jean.





Even Nelly did a country song with an artist who I can't think of.





Anyway, are you seeing my point? Those people who you claim to be "real" musicians, have made songs with rappers. If the "real" musicians can break through the stereotypes that you have shown, then you should be able to as well. If you don't like it, turn the station.
Reply:Whatever man. It's obvious you've decided for yourself. I just cant stand y'all rap haters.





Word.
Reply:Didn't you ask this yesterday? Well, I'll give the same reply:











ROCK FAN HERE...








Not sure if you're a musician to even ask that.





See, in music, there's what we call melody %26amp; rhythm. Rap/hip hop, for the most part, is primarily rhythm-based.





As for subject matter, seems you've only been exposed to the crap on MTV/BET. The *good* stuff that has social value is underground %26amp; out of the public eye....





Btw, rock really comes from the blues...
Reply:Yo, cracker! What be yo' problem? For schizzle if I evah catch yo' white as$ in Compton, I be gonna get all Neanderthal on you.





Rap is considered music for the same reason that ebonics is considered language. Because, we are told, it is racist to think otherwise. But hey, keep voting for democrats!
Reply:it music because people relate to it and find inner mos peace. even if the artist is crap is the people who decide is music
Reply:You tell me and we will all know. I totally agree with you. All they rap about is drugs, f------- this person and this person. It's so annoying. It drives me crazy. And it is a very very bad influence on kids. I hope to god my kids don't grow up listening to the crap. I want my two girls to grow up to be country girls known as REDNECKS.
Reply:1. It has rhythm (a lot)


2. It has melody (a bit)


3. It has rhyme (quite a bit)


4. It has lyrics (a lot of good ones, a lot of lousy ones / like any other music)
Reply:Alright I am a major Marilyn Manson lover and I really agree with what your saying. But you may be going about this the wrong way. I mean, Rappers, even if their music is crap, make money and mostly they're just trying to make a living like everyone else. Don't hate 'em cause they're different. Hate them because they agree with abortion or same sex marriage. Crap that matters. Musik just goes in one ear and out the other. Broaden your horizon man.
Reply:Actually rap has been around for a while. It just wasn't called rap. It bloomed into it. People have been "rapping" in songs for a long time. It started out as Hip-Hop. Think back. Grand Master Flash - The Message ring any bells. He was Hip-Hop but by todays standards it is rap. To call all rap lyrical manslaughter is a bit narrow minded. Every band/group/solo artist sells out to make it big. That's how it works. Originally, a lot of it conveyed messages to help end hate crimes. It has changed quite a bit. Will Smith is considered a rapper and doesn't cuss to sell his records, but I guess not everyone is that talented these days. The comment you made about it all being identical is how I feel about modern "rock." All these "emo" bands. WTF? Fall Out Boy, Death Cab For Cutie, and others all have a uncannily similar sound, but they still sell and all they are doing is whining about things. If I wanted to listen to that I'll hit up some Cure or something. Listen to some straight out blues when I'm in a funk. And it wasn't always rock. It was swing and big band and what happend to rock when disco hit? The top album sales of all times is actually classified as a country album, The Eagles. Check it out at Billboards all time sales lists. Not all rap is bad, not all rock is good. It takes all kinds to make the world just like it takes all kinds of music for all those peoples.
Reply:its not
Reply:Because Abraham Lincoln screwed it up for the rest of us, If it wasnt for that guy Rap music woudlnt even be apart of today's life, Thanks alot Abe!
Reply:I don't understand people like you, I really don't. You can choose to dislike the genre because it doesn't appeal to you, but no .. you keep on that thread and denounce the entire genre. *rolls eyes*





Rap is music, whether you happen to like it or not. The people, like you, who say it all sounds the same, haven't bothered to listen to enough of it to know any better.
Reply:Well I am not much into rap, I do like Toby Keith's rap (talk about me song is a good one!) and some of the country stuff there doing these days....


If one knows anything about music then that person should know that rap has been around longer than country, rock,blues,pop etc.


Todays rap is not to much different then what they did century's ago. The wording is different and how they do it, but basically it is the same.....


The rap that is done with NO other instruments but the mouth and hands, feet produce is pretty cool to see, this is talent.....and has been around longer then musical instruments......


Sending messages through song has been used even in the southern slave days to send messages of the underground railroad etc.





I think you are talking about todays rap music....
Reply:uh, yeah, there is definetly a formula for the rappers. Obviously they rap about "badboy" stuff to sell, 99% of these posers havent done what they rap about, and probably dont even know anyone that has. LONG LIVE ROCK AND ROLL

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